It's all a win-now philosophy. We've got some old guys on...

It's all a win-now philosophy. We've got some old guys on this team. Gary (Payton) ain't got five, six more years left. Shaq ain't got five, six more years left. That is the reason the trade was made. We'd be kidding ourselves if we thought the trade was for us to grow together for the next three years. No, it's not. We understand that.