He definitely challenged us being, when he came in, he was...

He definitely challenged us being, when he came in, he was the most experienced out of all of us as far as touring and as far as the amount of bands he'd been in and stuff. So when he came in, he kind of helped shape us up when we were putting out a whole bunch of ideas. And he definitely kept us on our toes in a lot of ways. In the three months that we knew each other, he became one of, all of us, he became one of our best friends. He was just an amazing character.