David gives us guidance. We had a clear-cut 10 years ago. We...

David gives us guidance. We had a clear-cut 10 years ago. We had nine bids from $60,000 to almost $200,000. If we had just gone in the middle, say $100,000, you see how much money we would have lost. I wouldn't think about making a timber sale without a forester. I would say that's the biggest benefit. You get good, free advice from the North Carolina Forest Service, too.