You get bummed out from time to time on receiving a letter...

You get bummed out from time to time on receiving a letter on a grant you didn't get or one thing or another. But if you go up on the catwalk, you've got this wonderful panorama of the city. Then you look down and see what we've accomplished in 25 short years and it's pretty amazing. You look and say, 'Sure would like to see this thing through.' And so you kind of recharge and jump back into the fray.