When the kids were babies, he would come home from work and say, 'I'm going to the gym,' and I knew intellectually that he needed to do that. Here I was, home with these babies and all I wanted to do was take a shower, be by myself for a minute.
We went out to dinner and to see the 10 Tenors a couple of months ago with friends. It takes us buying a ticket, putting our money where our mouths are.
They're a lot more self-sufficient now. Five years ago, we had to have a baby sitter to go anywhere. Now, we can yell upstairs and tell them we're going for a walk or down to get a cup of coffee.
Talk about trying times. We had two babies and he was at San Diego State getting his teaching credential, and we were both working full time.
They were the lowest rent in town for women, and we had a lot of diversity.