We need to beat them. You always want to get a monkey off your back. This season we got the 20-win monkey off of our back. Last season, we got to Cleveland. This season, we got the (first-round) bye. We need to just keep taking monkeys off of our back.
I am glad to get the monkey off my back. The program needed the 20 wins more than anything to take that next jump. It's big for us.