That doesn't mean that everybody who has at one time exercised is going to be a brilliant person. But if you are a somewhat intelligent person, you have the capacity for learning and you're an active person, who's a healthy person, you're going to do better at your learning.
But Vince was insisting that as long as there was time on the clock, we had a shot. He was right and he was the one who took us there.
I believe it would be a waste of time to continue with the present application for a reasons exception.