Folks within over there know how a lot of those things are...

Folks within over there know how a lot of those things are handled are somewhat of a shame, but you can't really just point fingers to say it's the Green Bay Packers because it's an issue all across the league, ... There's not enough minority coaches in the league across the board. So, just to pinpoint that one, that just so happened to be an issue that I kind of experienced first-hand from my relationship in Green Bay as well as with Coach Washington.